Episode Thirty-One: Waking Up to Find Ourselves in the Story of Race

Debby Irving, Author and Racial Justice EducatorEpisode 31 Show Notes:

Guest: Debby Irving, Author and Racial Justice Educator

I recently gave Debby’s book Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race to my 97-year-old mother. Each day when we speak, Mom shares how the book is impacting her. She feels guilt, anger, sadness, powerlessness, and compassion. She also shares how the book has opened her heart to the reality of the culture in which she was raised. And that even at her advanced age, she wants to be an instrument for positive change. 

My guest, Debby Irving, and I discuss:

  • The importance of white people realizing that they benefit from a prejudicial system simply because they are white; 
  • The truth about how the economic and social playing fields were never level between white people and those who are black and brown; 
  • How systemic racism is woven into every political, social, institutional, and religious structure; and 
  • The difference between well-meaning and well-doing. 

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